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On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:29 PM, John W. Moore III wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
>> Just wondering if the mobility e-mail project was still alive.  I use it
>> every day, but haven't seen anything in the way of updates, etc.
> 
> Good Question.  The truth of the situation is that between Shane getting
> married and moving to Japan along with the changes within the code for
> both Thunderbird & Enigmail caused some technical 'bumps' in the
> development road.
> Those scenarios all but halted Shane and in My case a New PC
> transitioned My O/S to Vista Ultimate and I haven't had the time to
> properly replicate My compiling environment.  <SIGH>
> I guess the Short Answer to Your Question is:  YES.  :(

Hello all!

As John mentioned, I got very busy over the last few years and simply have not had the time to develop Mobility Email.  That being said, ME based off Thunderbird 2.x is a relatively stable and functional communication solution.  Changes in TB 3 and newer versions of Enigmail would make it harder to create as stable a compilation.

Anyway, there were always inherent limits to the security offered by ME.  These include:
(1) Limits to how secure the large TB code base can be understood to be
(2) The potential to introduce flaws through our mobile loading system for ME
(3) Our inability to wipe the memory of public machines where ME was used 

We did our best with making things as small, as light and as protected as possible.  But I always felt that if we wanted to get a generational leap we really would need to do two things:
(1) Stop using a nasty hack to load a mobile version of the Mozilla codebase
(2) Stop using the Mozilla codebase

We probably need something with a much smaller and more audited footprint, and much tighter memory control, if ME would take a step forward in security.

Would I like to do that?

Sure.

Do I have time?

Nope.  I have not even had time to work on ME based off TB 2.x since 2006.

That being said, a team effort could work out.  First steps would be to find an encryption engine (gpg 1.x?) and a cross-platform emailing engine (Sendmail/IndigoMail?) and a lightweight way to read/compose/send messages using these two tools that does not require any special environment variables (a Java application?).

Thanks for the info.  I do hope something jump starts it again.

John W. Moore III wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> > Just wondering if the mobility e-mail project was still alive.  I use it
> > every day, but haven't seen anything in the way of updates, etc.
>
> Good Question.  The truth of the situation is that between Shane getting
> married and moving to Japan along with the changes within the code for
> both Thunderbird & Enigmail caused some technical 'bumps' in the
> development road.
>
> Those scenarios all but halted Shane and in My case a New PC
> transitioned My O/S to Vista Ultimate and I haven't had the time to
> properly replicate My compiling environment.  <SIGH>
>
> I guess the Short Answer to Your Question is:  YES.  :(
>
> JOHN ;)
> Timestamp: Thursday 25 Feb 2010, 23:29  --500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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> run it."
> --Ronald Reagan

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Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> Just wondering if the mobility e-mail project was still alive.  I use it
> every day, but haven't seen anything in the way of updates, etc.

Good Question.  The truth of the situation is that between Shane getting
married and moving to Japan along with the changes within the code for
both Thunderbird & Enigmail caused some technical 'bumps' in the
development road.

Those scenarios all but halted Shane and in My case a New PC
transitioned My O/S to Vista Ultimate and I haven't had the time to
properly replicate My compiling environment.  <SIGH>

I guess the Short Answer to Your Question is:  YES.  :(

JOHN ;)
Timestamp: Thursday 25 Feb 2010, 23:29  --500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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Just wondering if the mobility e-mail project was still alive.  I use it
every day, but haven't seen anything in the way of updates, etc.

Thanks.

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primarily to facilitate communication with folks "on their own turf" and
I rarely become 'involved' in the Games & Activities available there.
Occasionally, however, I do 'participate' and this is one of those times.

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TIA

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Timestamp: Saturday 31 May 2008, 01:04  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> John Moore 3rd wrote:
>> Based upon a very quick perusal of the Spicebird code You should be able
>> to get by with just copying the contents of the 'Profile'
>> folder/directory.  Worth a try anyway.
>>
>> JOHN 8-)
> 
> Thanks!  I'll give it a go.

Yup, as John said, it should work. :)

Shane (at a conference in Romania)

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> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> 
>> Spicebird is mozilla based.  Does anyone know if I can just copy
>> mailboxes, address books, etc., over to Mobility?  Any help will be
>> appreciated.
> 
> Based upon a very quick perusal of the Spicebird code You should be able
> to get by with just copying the contents of the 'Profile'
> folder/directory.  Worth a try anyway.
> 
> JOHN 8-)

Thanks!  I'll give it a go.

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jef...@gm...

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Jeffrey Needle wrote:

> Spicebird is mozilla based.  Does anyone know if I can just copy 
> mailboxes, address books, etc., over to Mobility?  Any help will be 
> appreciated.

Based upon a very quick perusal of the Spicebird code You should be able
to get by with just copying the contents of the 'Profile'
folder/directory.  Worth a try anyway.

JOHN 8-)
Timestamp: Thursday 29 May 2008, 19:05  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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I had used Mobility for a while, but a few months ago switched to 
Synovel Spicebird.  It's a bit unsteady -- still in beta -- and I'm 
looking at switching back to Mobility.

Spicebird is mozilla based.  Does anyone know if I can just copy 
mailboxes, address books, etc., over to Mobility?  Any help will be 
appreciated.
-- 

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Jeffrey Needle
jef...@gm...

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I have Uploaded the New GnuPG Build for Mobility to:

http://mobility.e-ignite.co.uk

Be sure and read the README text File and Enjoy.

This Build, like the last one, has *not* been UPX'd but should anyone
have a Flash Drive with limited space and requires a Compressed version
the Please let Me know and I shall Ship Ya a copy of the Binaries with
UPX compression.

JOHN 8-)
Timestamp: Wednesday 30 Apr 2008, 19:43  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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Just to confirm that John has now uploaded the source file for the
latest version.  You can download this and the Mobility version of
GnuPG for Windows from http://mobility.e-ignite.co.uk

If you have any questions or problems, don't hesitate to post to the list.

Adam

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:48 PM, John W. Moore III
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> GnuPG Released 1.4.9 earlier today & I have just Uploaded the Mobility
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> but will do that later tonight.
>
> Since there are no substantiative changes in the Manual I shall leave
> the Manual for 1.4.8 in place.  As always, all Comments are Welcome &
> Appreciated.
>
> JOHN :-D
> Timestamp: Wednesday 26 Mar 2008, 16:48  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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GnuPG Released 1.4.9 earlier today & I have just Uploaded the Mobility
version to the e-ignite Site.  I haven't Uploaded the Source File yet
but will do that later tonight.

Since there are no substantiative changes in the Manual I shall leave
the Manual for 1.4.8 in place.  As always, all Comments are Welcome &
Appreciated.

JOHN :-D
Timestamp: Wednesday 26 Mar 2008, 16:48  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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Shane Martin Coughlan wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:47E...@sh..." type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">Hi Jeffrey

Jeffrey Needle wrote:
  </pre>
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    <pre wrap="">Hello, all.  I love Mobility, but had to stop using it because the news
portion was so unreliable.  I switched to good old Seamonkey.  I am now
on DSL, and notice that the problem with the news server has
disappeared.  I want to come back to Mobility.  My question: can I move
the files from my Seamonkey profile to my Mobility profile, or do I need
to do some sort of import.  Are the files compatible?  Seamonkey is a
gecko-based project, similar to Mobility.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
The news code is unchanged from Mozilla's TB source code, so that must
be a bit flaky on the 1.5 code base.

As John said, I'm working on a TB 3.0 code base release of Mobility but
it's been delayed due to a combination of factors.  One is that the
compile process keeps choking on my machine.  Another is that my work
has been absolutely insane for the last eight months.

You should be able to migrate a Seamonkey profile to Mobility without
problems.  Just make sure to back up everything first.  All that should
be needed is to copy the Seamonkey profile files into to the Mobility
profile folder.

Shane

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Hi Jeffrey

Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> Hello, all.  I love Mobility, but had to stop using it because the news
> portion was so unreliable.  I switched to good old Seamonkey.  I am now
> on DSL, and notice that the problem with the news server has
> disappeared.  I want to come back to Mobility.  My question: can I move
> the files from my Seamonkey profile to my Mobility profile, or do I need
> to do some sort of import.  Are the files compatible?  Seamonkey is a
> gecko-based project, similar to Mobility.

The news code is unchanged from Mozilla's TB source code, so that must
be a bit flaky on the 1.5 code base.

As John said, I'm working on a TB 3.0 code base release of Mobility but
it's been delayed due to a combination of factors.  One is that the
compile process keeps choking on my machine.  Another is that my work
has been absolutely insane for the last eight months.

You should be able to migrate a Seamonkey profile to Mobility without
problems.  Just make sure to back up everything first.  All that should
be needed is to copy the Seamonkey profile files into to the Mobility
profile folder.

Shane

Thanks so much for your help.  I'm hoping John will address this on
Monday.  Much obliged!

John W. Moore III wrote:
> SeaMonkey contains both a Browser & a Mail Client.  It may be possible
> to 'move' the Profile but without any experience with SM I couldn't
> begin to explain how to recognize the correct ones.  I am sure that
> Shane may have a more acceptable Answer for You on Monday.
>
> Happy Easter!
>
> JOHN ;)
> Timestamp: Saturday 22 Mar 2008, 18:48  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> I love Mobility, but had to stop using it because the news
> portion was so unreliable.

I suspect this is because the current Release of Mobility is based upon
the Thunderbird 1.5 Source Code.  Shane is trying very hard to build a
new Release based upon T-Bird 3.0 code but between the spin-off of the
Thunderbird Project from Mozilla coupled with the extremely hectic [some
would say enviable] travel schedule the FSFE has saddled Him with this
year it has taken more time than desired. :-\

> I want to come back to Mobility.  My question: can I move
> the files from my Seamonkey profile to my Mobility profile, or do I need
> to do some sort of import.  Are the files compatible?  Seamonkey is a
> gecko-based project, similar to Mobility.

SeaMonkey contains both a Browser & a Mail Client.  It may be possible
to 'move' the Profile but without any experience with SM I couldn't
begin to explain how to recognize the correct ones.  I am sure that
Shane may have a more acceptable Answer for You on Monday.

Happy Easter!

JOHN ;)
Timestamp: Saturday 22 Mar 2008, 18:48  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
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Hello, all.  I love Mobility, but had to stop using it because the news
portion was so unreliable.  I switched to good old Seamonkey.  I am now
on DSL, and notice that the problem with the news server has
disappeared.  I want to come back to Mobility.  My question: can I move
the files from my Seamonkey profile to my Mobility profile, or do I need
to do some sort of import.  Are the files compatible?  Seamonkey is a
gecko-based project, similar to Mobility.

Thanks for any help you can give!

-- 

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Jeffrey Needle
jef...@gm...

On 1/15/08, david Alllen <da...@sp...> wrote:
> I am trying  to configure the Mobility Email Client to send and receive
> Hotmail emails. So far i am unsuccessful. Can anyone send me detailed
> instruction on how to configure this correctly? my email is
> uncodave[at]hotmail.com

Firstly, I'd recommend updating your extensions - especially with the
webmail extension, you are likely to find Compatibility Updates are
applied.  Next, open the Addons menu, and select "Options" under the
Hotmail extension.  Change the method to "Web-Dav" and close the
dialog box.  This should make it work for you.

If you need any more help, don't hesitate to post back to the list.

Regards,

Adam

david Alllen wrote:
> I am trying  to configure the Mobility Email Client to send and receive
> Hotmail emails. So far i am unsuccessful. Can anyone send me detailed
> instruction on how to configure this correctly? my email is
> uncodave[at]hotmail.com

We are using the normal webmail extensions, so the instructions from
their webpage should explain it fully:
http://webmail.mozdev.org/setup.html

Regards

Shane

I am trying  to configure the Mobility Email Client to send and receive
Hotmail emails. So far i am unsuccessful. Can anyone send me detailed
instruction on how to configure this correctly? my email is
uncodave[at]hotmail.com

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Some may be wondering why Mobility hasn't Released another build since
1.4.8 was Officially released.  The answer is simple; the Mobility
release of 2 weeks ago /is/ 1.4.8 Official + the Mobility features.

In the Mobility Release both Camellia 128 & 256 have been enabled.
Camellia is an encryption algorithm.  The notation for each is S11 & S12
respectively.  Notice the change from what was in the build prior to
this release.......only Camellia 256 which was labeled S11.  Now, S11 is
the label for Camellia 128 & S12 has been added for Camellia 256.

I have received inquiries about a 'Manual' for the Mobility Release.  I
have Uploaded the 1.4.8 Manual in .pdf format to the e-ignite site.  I
shall also attach a copy to this missive but SourceForge servers may
strip the attachment. :(  Don't hesitate to contact Me direct should You
desire the Manual be shipped direct to You.  It is only 113KB in size so
can be easily sent upon request.

JOHN ;)
Timestamp: Friday 28 Dec 2007, 11:11  --500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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Shane Martin Coughlan wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
>> I haven't yet downloaded the new version.  I see it's available.
> 
> Do you mean of the GnuPG encryption tools?
> 
>> A question: to upgrade, do I just install over the old folder?  Do I
>> lose settings, etc., by doing so?
> 
> If you are install the encryption update you just add it to the Programs
> folder.
> 
> If you are upgrading to a new version of Mobility Email itself, then
> there is a slightly more compex update to preserve user data.  Please see:
> http://sdp.opendawn.com/index.php/Migrate_your_profile_to_a_new_version_of_the_Mobility_Email_client
> 

Yes, I think it's an entirely new version.  Thanks for the reference, it
will help!


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Jeffrey Needle
jef...@gm...